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What became of the material that
didn't make it into the book?
We had a huge collection of memories
to draw on and for one reason or another many of them did not end up
in the book. A number of people have asked what has happened to the
material that didn't make it. A complete set of photocopies of all
the material, all the notes on the photographs along with any photographs that their owners did not want
returned have been properly listed, archived and presented to the the
Plumstead Road Library where they are available on request.
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I found quite by
accident the personal memories page of your web-site and a few names
jogged my memory of my time at no 3 Egyptian Road. I lived there from
birth-1938- until 1965 when we moved to Wellesley Avenue North. My
name is Ian Scott, the second of six kids, the others being Jimmy,
sadly dead, twins Brian (also passed away), David, John and Mary the
youngest. It was a miracle that we all lived in a two up two down with
no bathroom and an outside toilet. I remember having a bath at the
slipper baths at the old Duke's Palace at the top of Duke Street. I
think it was sixpence for half an hour but unlimited hot water, what
bliss!
One of your e mailers was asking about a house in St. Leonards Road
and mentioned David Chipperfield. Sadly Chippie passed away recently
but his wife Sheila still lives in St.Leonards terrace next door to
Beryl Vickers, two dear friends of mine.
My e-mail address is scotiaatfour@aol.com please feel free to use it
or pass it on to anyone who may be interested. |
| "I was so
pleased to read your message, Christina, for your Grandad was my
favourite uncle and your uncle Gerald was my favourite cousin. I would
love some news from the younger members of the family for the old'uns
have passed on, I guess. My mother is still alive and kicking at 89
but lives a long way from you in the North East. Take care and good
luck to you, your mum and your sisters. Michael" |
My Grandfather,
James Weir Lindsay was born in December 1871 in St Elands Cottages,
Hamlet of Thorpe; he was the son of soldier serving with 7th Dragoon
Guards.
The purpose of this letter is to ascertain if there are any pictures
or drawings of the cottages, if so, is it possible to obtain copies ?
I appreciate that very little information will be available regarding
the regiment etc., but if possible, I would like to ascertain any
information about the property.
ANY assistance would be appreciated.
Regards, STANLEY SEPHTON. |
My grandparents
(Jim and Eva Scott) lived in Vincent Road and went to the Scott
Memorial Chapel before they moved to Biggleswade in 1943. Gran, who's
madien name was Harper, family was connect with the Scott for it's
early days. As many of her brothers and sisters were married there.
Granddad ran the Boys Brigade unit, while Gran helped in the Sunday
School and
was a Methodist lay preacher. Her family, the Harpers, went back to
the early days of the chapel as her father, Arthur, having first gone
there shortly after it opened in 1904. Many of her brothers and
sisters were married there, including my grandparents. My late father,
Norman who was baptised there, having heard that the chapel was due to
close had me drive him up to Norwich for the last service.
Stephen |
| I wonder if
anyone has any information on my grandmother and my great grandmother
and grandfather. Their address was Pear Tree Cottage, Tower Hill,
School Lane, Thorpe St Andrews, Norwich and my Granny's name was Ella
Champman and her father was Benjamin Chapman and her mother was Lizzie
Chapman (nee Long). Gran had a few sisters, Ethel, Muriel, Hilda and
brother Jim. Muriel married a Mr Herbert Miles. It would be so
wonderful to get news of long lost relatives as planning trip to
Norwich in October to seek out the places of my granny's early days.
From Helen Stuart, Inverness |
| "I was so
pleased to read your message, Christina, for your Grandad was my
favourite uncle and your uncle Gerald was my favourite cousin. I would
love some news from the younger members of the family for the old'uns
have passed on, I guess. My mother is still alive and kicking at 89
but lives a long way from you in the North East. Take care and good
luck to you, your mum and your sisters. Michael" |
Can any one
please help me. I am trying to find any descendants of Jabez Hunter
(my greatgrandfather), he was born in 1846 and died 1916. He lived
with his wife Matha nee King at Rosary Terrace Rosary Road. They had 2
children Sidney and Emma. Sidney(my grandfather) died in Doncaster in
1923 and his wife Florence brought my Dad (Wilfred) back to Wolfe
road.
I have been pretty successful in tracing earlier family but the newer
family is proving difficult.
I hope some one can help. Thanks Chris Hunter |
| Having recently
bought Vine Cottage 30a St Leonards Rd, which is on the corner of St
Leonards and Quebec Rd, I would be most interested if anyone has any
information or old photographs relating to this property. I understand
that the house was built in 1851 and acquired the postal address, 30a,
in the 20`s having been called Vine Cottage because of the
conservatory which was demolished some years ago to make way for a
garage. Many thanks. Richard |
Ailwyn Hall was
built in 1925 by the Great Eastern Railway company for the use of the
railwaymen, please do you have any information about Ailwyn Hall, I
know Ailwyn Hall which was probably named after 1st Baron Ailwyn
Edward Fellowes a company director who died in September 1924, The
Hall in Lower Clarence Road, Norwich was opened by Lord Tolemache
in1925. It is believed the club was given to the railwaymen of
Norwich, but proof have been lost, have you any records concerning
this, the club was sold and the proceeds went to the local railway
company.
Ailwyn was on the board of both Great Eastern & London &North Eastern
Railways
Thanking you in anticipation
Fran Cawdron |
| I am looking for
information on KETTS HILL BAKERY i had relatives that lived and worked
there in 1800's & 1900's. a JAMES ELWIN and ROBERT ARTHUR ELWIN. but i
want to find out if there is any other information about them
anywhere. idid write to the address in KETTS HILL a few months
back,but i never got a reply even though i sent an s.a.e.
I'm also looking for information on THOROULDS
BUILDINGS, My grt grt grandmother died there in 1800's.
my e-mail is sheiky59@aol.com
can anyone help.
regards sheila |
I am currently
researching my family history.
My Great Grandfather William Fuller was born in 1893 at 6 Malvern Road
to James and Alice Fuller in 1901 Census they had moved to 10 Malvern
Road.
William married Kate Barnard and my father Harold was born at 43
Florence Road in 1922.
As all the family were employed by the railway was the area railway
houses?
Would appreciate any help .
B Stebbings |
I am currently
writing my autobiography and would like to know more about the above
school , which was in Ella Road . I started there in 1938 .
When was it bombed ? when was it transferred to the Crome School in
Telegraph Lane ?
Are there any records of names of the teachers ? i seem to recall a
Miss Castleton and a Mrs Jenkins - am I correct?
Thanks - Bernard Ecker ( formally of 57 Prince of Wales Road )
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Hi there,
please could anyone find a photograph of the Bakers Arms as the bakery
years ago. i don't know much about the history of this pub and would
like a photo to show how this building used to be.
i will be shortly taking over the bakers arms lease and would be
grateful for any information on the history to promote the memories of
Thorpe Hamlet into my pub.
Please let me know if anyone can assist me.
THE BAKERS ARMS 66,ST.LEONARDS ROAD ,NORWICH
Robert Robins
robert.robins@ntlworld.com |
I have just come
across your site on the internet - yes it takes time for me to find my
way around these things!
But to the point:-
I have some information regarding the Boweren family. A Michael
Boweren who lives in France - or did at the time of his query on your
site - is requesting information regarding the Boweren family. Am I
correct that this Michael is brother to Pauline? My grandfather was
Sydney Walter Boweren, one of seven children, being Eleanor (Nell)
Bob, Fred, Ted, Leslie, and George. Sydney lived in Burnham,
Buckinghamshire until he died. Sydney had three children, Gerald, Rita
and Sylvia, Sylvia had three children, myself - Christina and Theresa
and Lee who are twins. As I understand it their father was William
Edgar and mother was Elizabeth Sturgess. I have further names and may
be able to provide more information, but I guess we ought to see how
this goes first and hope that Michael has not already found this
information and I am SO far behind the times.
Regards
Christina |
Hi
i hope someone would be able to help me, i am looking for information
on the above bakery, as i had ELWIN relatives who worked and lived
there during the 1800's.
i would like to find out more information on it, especially more on
the occupants or bakers there, and if there are any records of how
long my rellies worked and lived there for. Also any pictures there
might be.
I did write to the bakery some time ago, and i put in a S.A.E but i
never got a reply, which i am a bit annoyed about as it does not take
much effort to write on a scrap of paper " sorry i cannot help you"
hope you can
regards sheila merritt |
Hello,
I see 2 references to Railway Cottages. Can anyone tell me where they
were? Also I’d be interested to know the difference between Thorpe
Hamlet and Thorpe next Norwich. Is an address naming Railway Cotts
Thorpe next Nowich the same as Railway Cotts Thorpe Hamlet?
David Culley |
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I was fascinated by your website,
especially since my grandfather, who I never knew, was born there.
His name was George Charles BOWEREN and I believe he died as a
result of wounds he received in WWI. He was born, according to War
Records around 1880, and his father, of German origin, worked for
Colman's as a coachman. George Charles later moved to Burnham in
Buckinghamshire where he married and founded a family of seven
children, all of whom have now passed away. When I was very young my
father and mother took us to Wells next the Sea on holiday and
during the week we went to City Hall in Norwich where my father
tried to look up records of his family. I remember him coming away
very disconsolate without success, although I was too young to know
what was going on at the time. I would love to hear from anyone who
can throw some light on the Boweren family so that I can put my
mother, who is 88 this year, in the picture. I have been living in
France for the past 25 years but still follow the Canaries like my
Father. Keep up the splendid work of protecting England's heritage.
Yours truly
Michael BOWEREN
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I wonder if you
can help me with a bit of research. I am looking at the life of a
distant relative of mine, Alfred Rutt.
Alfred was born in Cambridge in 1822, learnt the boatbuilding trade
through his step father Samuel Logan and, after the death of his first
wife Mary Ann Reeve, appears tpo have moved to Thorpe Next Norwich
where he married a Martha Wiles (maybe Wyles) in 1849. His early
children were born there.
I wonder if there is any trace of his being in Thorpe next Norwich. He
lived in the Spitalfield district I believe.
The reason I ask is not merely out of of my own curiosity but because
of an Australian cousin of mine descended from him. She really would
like to know something of her roots. Alfred emigrated to Australia in
1855 on the 'Morayshire' arriving in Sydney in 1856 (interestingly,
the ship went on to pick up descendants of the Bounty Mutiny on
Pitcairn Island and take them to Norfolk Island)
I would very much like to hear if you have anything at all
relevant.
Julian Buttery
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To Lisbeth.
I remember the old Blake family very well. I lived at 83 Quebec Road,
many years ago, I recall Vera, Ruby and of course Billy, who died of
wounds during the world war 2 . I knew Molly and Ivan Finch and their
mother I think thye used to live in the house next to the waterworks,
later occupied by a family called Daniels, in my time my Aunt lived
next door to the Blakes, then the Jearys, Hazel Joan and Geoffrey, who
served as a prisoner of war in Germany, Where are they now? Maybe gone
but not forgotten....
Mary Cowell (nee Rowe) Western Australia. |
Re my dad who
was born and brought up 45, Quebec Road, Thorpe Hamlet his name was
Bernard Mattin unfortunately my dad died 2000 aged 67. Dad and his
brother Raymond grew up and went on to work on the railway my dad
'Bernard ' was a train driver on the steam engines alongside his
father George Mattin and both my dads grandfathers worked on the
railway his mums father William Blake and hid dads father Andrew
Mattin all of them lived on Quebec Road .My nanny was known as Ruby
although her name was Agnes nee Blake she was also born on Quebec
Road. My nannys neighbour was called florrie colman they shared a
courtyard. My dad had a cousin Molly Finch has been mentioned already
in 'memories' she had a brother Ivan .Often when I visited my nanny we
would go to the 'Rosary' to put flowers on my great grandparents
graves and my great uncle Billy Blake he was killed in the 2nd world
war he was my nanny's brother .
I can remember my dad talking about the dancing lessons he used to
have with my mum Patricia Mattin nee Fuller mum was not brought up in
thorpe hamlet but met my dad when she was just 14 , they were married
at St. Peter Mancroft in 1953 the house they were taught in was on
Brittania Road just before you reach st. James's Hill on the left hand
side of the road.
My grandad George Mattin used to play darts at the William 4th pub on
st. Leonards road .I can remembert going to the sweet shop on the
corner of Quebec Road where you could buy boiled sweets from jars and
i used to pay my nanny's 'didlums' as she called it it was a kind of
savings scheme, paid weekly.
Lizbeth |
I found your
site which is fascinating as some of my ancestors came from there.
My great grandfather was a Francis Arthur Morse who married a lady
called Mary Chaplin. From records great grandfather was a Crepe
Designer at the time of the birth of my grandfather Charles George
Hugh Morse in 1884 and Francis and his wife were living at Freneda
Cottage on Telegraph Lane.
Francis and Mary were still living at Freneda Cottage in 1891 (census)
and Francis was a Crepe Roller Engraver.
By the time my Grandfather Charles George Hugh married in 1915 Francis
was described as a gentleman which was often a colloquialism for
retired but it does not say if he was still living in the Hamlet but i
suspect so as Charles married at St Matthews.
Does Freneda Cottage on Telegraph Lane still exist ?
Was there a crepe material printing industry in Thorpe Hamlet?
Was the Brewery in Thorpe Hamlet a Steward, Pattison, Morse and Finch
brewery ? and if so was my great grandfather related to Sir George H
Morse for whom Morse Road in Thorpe is named ?
Does anyone know ? I would be grateful for any information or memories
anyone might have.
Your site is fascinating - keep up the good work
Nick St John-Moore |
Hi, My name is
Bill Starling (David), I have just looked your book & website for the
first time .
On page 60 in the book is a class photo Crome school 1957 this was my
class, I recognise most by looks, but only a few by name.
Alan Tacon, John Harper, Bernard Ewles, Rodney Capes, John Lane, Tony
Norton & myself.
Can you remind me of the other names.
My wife and family left Norwich for Western Australia in1966 so have
lost touch long ago.
On the web page is an article by David F Shailer about his father,"
Bill"& loco 70013 named
Oliver Cromwell, my father also drove this engine just before diesels
came in.
Yours David Starling Ex 19 Hill House Rd |
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